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Item: 334984448932
Condition:Used An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitionsopens in a new window or tab
Seller Notes:“Refurbished – these tubes are old and have often suffered in their physical condition, which can … Read moreabout the seller notes“Refurbished – these tubes are old and have often suffered in their physical condition, which can affect their electrical performance, but The Tube Fairy’s process ensures that you get the optimal possible performance and appearance from each tube! Our refurbishing process involves:- cleaning dirt and grime from contact pins- de-oxidizing contact pins- straightening contact pins- polishing contact pins- applying pulsed high voltages to appropriate electrodes to help prevent shorts- cleaning glass while protecting what remains of silkscreen label- housing in sturdy protective box” Read Lessabout the seller notes
Westinghouse:Westinghouse
Type:NOS Tube
Custom Bundle:No
12AT7:12AT7
MPN:Does Not Apply
Country/Region of Manufacture:United States
Modified Item:No
eBay What are you buying? This is a classic Westinghouse black plate 12AT7 vacuum tube, testing as a true NOS tube, packaged in a vintage General Electric box, and in overall fantastic condition. Dual triodes with black plates like these are especially sought after for their rich tone and strong conduction, and this tube is no exception! Testing results This tube tests as NOS, or New Old Stock, meaning it is a brand new tube, and will perform as such, with excellent service being delivered for years to come! Combine this first-rate electrical condition with the sought-after black plates, and you have a tube that is just perfect for any circuit calling for reliable 12AT7 performance, especially audio circuits! Below is a simple quick reference list of measurements for both sections of the tube, with the most critical values listed first and percentages related to the nominal value. More details on testing results and parameters, graphical representations of results, as well as custom testing, can be provided upon request. μ (amplification factor): 61.5 (102.5%) // 64.4 (107.4%) rp (plate resistance): 11,907 ohms (109.2%) // 11,763 ohms (107.9%) plate current: 8.58 mA (85.8%) // 8.95 mA (89.5%) gm (transconductance): 5,163 umhos (93.9%) // 5,479 umhos (99.6%) Notes on this model 12AT7 is equivalent with the European model ECC81. It is a high-mu, high transconductance twin triode in a miniature B9A base, the triodes completely independent except for the heater. It’s designed for use as a grounded-grid radio-frequency amplifier, or a combined oscillator and mixer at frequencies less than approximately 300 megacycles, and a frequency changer for ultra-short waves up to 500 megacycles. It is especially suited to these applications due to its low capacitance, and high ratio of plate current to transconductance. The separate cathode connections and tapped heater also allow it to be used in a wide variety of other applications, such as a frequency multiplier, frequency converter in FM and television broadcast bands, resistance capacity coupled amplifier, and the application you’re likely seeking it out for – a regular audio frequency voltage amplifier or phase inverter! RCA specifically recommends use as a push-pull cathode drive amplifiers. In the world of guitar amps, this tube is widely used in a variety of applications, but is primarily found as a reverb driver or tremolo oscillator, especially in classic Fender amps. It also makes a fantastic phase inverter. This tube is also very commonly substituted for the famous 12AX7 when folks are looking for a bit less gain and more clean headroom, especially if they’re chasing a pristine clean tone. It has a unique quality when overdriven that is not necessarily unilaterally loved, but can provide just the bite some folks are looking for. The pinouts, bases, and sizes are identical, and the 12AT7 is a safe drop-in substitute for the 12AX7 in almost all situations, and very fun to include in a tube rolling adventure. It is worth noting that it has a tendency to draw a bit more grid current, however, and draws around ten times the plate current at similar biasing (though it is still only around 10mA), so it is possible, though unlikely, for the plate load resistor or transformer to be under-spec for this tube. Quick reference notes on policy, testing procedure and more… Please reach out with any questions, issues or concerns! I’ll always go the extra mile to make things right, and I love to help and advise where I can. Tubes are tested on the Essues Etracer curve tracer, the most accurate modern machine for matching tubes, and one of the most accurate for measurement of a wide range of parameters. A physical printout or email pdf of test results and parameters will be included with any purchase upon request. Custom testing parameters may also be provided upon request. Tubes marked NOS are measured within 20% tolerances on all critical values Triodes are measured for μ (amplification factor), rp (plate resistance), plate current, and gm (transconductance), in order of importance. Matched or balanced triodes measure within 5% of each other on the first 3 values, and checked across their entire operating range. Pentodes/beam tetrodes are measured for gm (transconductance), plate current, screen current, and rp (plate resistance), in order of importance. Matched pentodes/beam tetrodes measure within 5% of each other on the first 2 values, and checked across their entire operating range. Contact pins are de-oxidized, cleaned and polished! (gold pins not polished, of course) Best efforts have been made to clean tubes, preserve their labels, and provide original boxes, but vintage tubes commonly have variable amounts of dust on them, labels are commonly variably eroded, and boxes will commonly be substitutes. Refunds may be given for broken tubes only, not for variations in testing/performance, as they will commonly perform differently in different environments and equipment. Replacements for broken tubes will be issued as available. Exceptions at my discretion. Why purchase your tubes from The Tube Fairy? Integrity in pricing, testing and advertisement – many Ebay tube sellers use dishonest tactics, such as: writing incorrect model number equivalents in the title to make it seem as if the tube is higher grade, or just to catch more search results; inflating prices far beyond the market value of the tube and using misleading language in the description to manipulate the customer into believing the absurd pricing somehow equates to better performance; advertising tubes as ‘matched’ (which should mean matched electrical performance) when they are only matched for date codes (no guarantee of electrical performance) and may even be untested; advertising untested or poor testing tubes as NOS simply because they may be in the original box or in good cosmetic condition; and posting misleading testing results without references, to sell weak or dangerously over-performing tubes at NOS prices. The Tube Fairy skips all that nonsense, giving you nothing but hard data from professional performance tests, well researched and documented information about the model and any features of the construction, manufacture or vintage, and fair pricing that is directly related to these previous factors, as related to a modern market average. The title will have only the correct model number(s) and equivalents, and the testing results and categorizations are related directly to clear information on how they relate to performance. I have a lot of respect for my buyers, and it’s my mission to make sure they get exactly what they pay for. In addition, my disclaimers on testing parameters and refund conditions are clearly stated on each listing, to ensure each purchaser is clear on the terms of sale beforehand. Tube refurbishing – vacuum tubes produced back in their heyday are likely 50 years old at least, if not 100 years old or even more! At this age, even if they were stored well in their original boxes, tubes’ condition may have suffered from the years in a number of ways. The primary victims are the connection pins, which often have oxidized or may be covered in other substances, which can dramatically affect conductivity and quality of connection. In addition, deposits may have built up on the electrodes internally, which can potentially cause shorts or decreased emissions. The Tube Fairy addresses all of these ills by giving special treatment to the pins, de-oxidizing, cleaning and polishing them back to perfect conductivity (gold pins are not polished as this would remove the gold coating), and using the Etracer curve tracer to provide pulsed DC to different electrodes, using the highest safe voltages to help remove impurities and prevent shorts. The most accurate professional grade testing and matching available – ‘testing’ a tube can mean many things. There are many types of equipment, from those that test all possible performance parameters, to those that more or less only determine if the thing turns on! Even most competent testers only evaluate a tube at a single operating point, or measure a single value, which may or may not be relevant to your equipment. In addition, many sellers list incomplete information about their testing results, usually something like “testing at 94 where 45 is the minimum value”. This says nothing about what the testing parameter is or what it relates to! It only ensures that the tube is functioning above minimum ratings in some capacity, and makes tubes that are testing far beyond their nominal values seem acceptable, which could potentially be bad news for your equipment if the parameter happens to be something like plate current on a power tube! These sorts of results do nothing to evaluate the tube across the high voltage operating range that it may experience in your gear, do nothing to evaluate tube longevity, and have very limited matching accuracy. My testing device is the Essues Etracer, an unparalleled modern curve tracer, capable of measuring all relevant performance indicators across the tube’s entire operating range, including: filament current, plate current, transconductance, amplification factor, plate resistance, and screen current. The comprehensive resulting data can be evaluated to accurately determine not only the quality of regular performance, but also how much life a tube has left, the quality of its linearity, and how it performs in the very lowest and highest voltages of its operating range. The only other modern testing device at this level would be the Amplitrex AT1000, but even that unit cannot develop full spectrum graphical analysis the way the Etracer can. This device is able to represent measured information graphically across the entire working range of the tube, and this is the most accurate possible way to ‘match’ tubes for performance, meaning that their electrical characteristics will be identical within a certain tolerance across their entire operating range. This is crucial for push-pull power amplifiers and phase inverters, as well as many other applications. A final added benefit of this system is, because it supplies pulsed voltages in fractions of a second, tubes can actually be evaluated safely up to 1.5x their operating range, doubly ensuring that it will handle high voltages well. These pulsed high voltages also help to clear impurities from different electrodes within the tube, which helps to prevent shorts and may even increase longevity. Friendly, honest service – I sell these wonderful little buggers because I love them, I love the world of audio and audio enthusiasts, and I dearly want to bring excellent sound and performance to your system, whether it be a hifi amp, a mic pre, an effects unit, a studio compressor, or a roaring guitar amp! Each tube is packaged lovingly with extra insulation material and a strong, fresh mailing box to ensure they get to you safely. If a tube ever arrives broken, I will gladly and swiftly issue you a refund, or a replacement at my shipping cost if requested and available, no muss no fuss. One of the biggest reasons why I love tubes and tube gear is because they belong to an era of technology where full comprehension of the systems involved was not far beyond the resources and knowledge of the average consumer. Our high-tech world has brought us a lot of wonderful things, but I firmly believe it benefits everyone when the knowledge of how your devices work is close at hand. I hope to do my small part in making that information, and tube technology in general, accessible to everyone, but especially low-income and underserved communities that have been priced or gatekept out of being able to take advantage of this technology. That’s why I am ALWAYS happy to disseminate information and answer questions! I am still learning, myself, but I am careful not to speak on anything I am not certain about and researched on, and I’m happy to relate my answers to whatever your level of experience and knowledge may be, so don’t be afraid to come to me as a casual consumer or beginner! DISCLAIMERS Performance differences – tubes are temperamental and sensitive little things. Their measured performance may change even up to 5% or sometimes more based on the temperature, amount of warm-up time, time of day at which they are tested, and wall voltage. I do my very best to test all parameters thoroughly and redundantly before selling a tube, and post my testing parameters and results on each listing, as well as including a printout of the test results with the tube purchased, and/or custom testing parameters, if requested. However, the golden rule of vintage audio is: Your Mileage May Vary. The Tube Fairy is not responsible for how tubes may perform in your gear, or test in any other tester, or any differences between those testing results and the ones I’ve listed. Tubes perform differently in different circuits, and there is no way for me to ensure one will perform perfectly in every single one. These tubes are tested as amplifiers and, for diodes, rectifiers; this will not ensure ideal performance for a tube used as an oscillator, for example. This is NOT usually an issue, however, as tube circuits will allow for a wide tolerance of performance parameters from a tube (at least 20% is common) and small fluctuations will make little to no difference. In addition, testing a tube’s full range performance as an amplifier will give the best estimation of performance for all applications. Refunds and replacements – there is only one condition under which a refund or replacement will be issued – if there is physical damage to the tube. This does NOT include damage to the fragile and disintegrating screen printing on the tubes or the tube boxes, or slightly bent or discolored pins. This DOES includes broken contact pins or guide pin, cracked or broken glass, and white getter flash. The getter flash is the chrome/grey/silver coating on the inside of the tube, usually on the top, and it’s an indicator of the integrity of the vacuum seal of the tube. If the getter flash is powder white, the vacuum seal is broken, the tube will not function, and should absolutely not be plugged into any gear. I will be happy to issue a refund for such tubes, or a replacement if one is available, with shipping at my cost. If no direct equivalents in all capacities are available, the customer will have the option of receiving a lower testing or less valuable equivalent model, along with a partial refund to make up the difference in cost. Refunds or replacements will not be granted for differences in tube performance. However, I ask all customers to please reach out if you have any issues at all, and I will always do my best to make it right. Exceptions to the refund/replacement policy should not be expected, but may be granted at my discretion. If you experience failure or poor performance from the tube, it can often be determined from the details of the failure whether the issues source from the tube, or other components. I am always happy to give preliminary advice or guidance in diagnosing such issues, whether the tube is at fault or not. Noise/hum/microphonics – tubes sold by The Tube Fairy are not tested for noise, hum, or microphonics. Some model numbers, such as US military 4-digit numbers, may already be screened for these factors at time of manufacture; if this is the case it will be listed in the description, but even this is no guarantee. I am developing a device for testing for these factors, but there is no possible way to completely guarantee a lack of noise, hum or microphonics, as these factors can be caused by many things and are very dependent upon the other factors of the system the tube is being used in, such as lead dress, construction details and power supply. If you experience any of these issues, please reach out and I will be happy to help you determine the source of the issue! Cosmetic condition – tube boxes never have their condition guaranteed. Whenever possible I will send the tubes in their original boxes, or a period and brand appropriate original box, but these have often decayed beyond the point of use, and in those cases, a brand new blank white box with the model number written on it will contain the tube. I am happy to meet customer requests for boxing as I am able, at no additional charge. Tubes themselves will be cleaned to whatever extent possible, without compromising whatever labeling remains, but no guarantees are made to perfect cleanliness or condition of the labels. Often, cleaning the surface of the glass completely would remove what remains of the delicate silkscreen, and often the silkscreen may be removed even more when the tube is taken out of, or placed into, a box. Pictures taken will represent the level of cleanliness the tubes have been restored to, but any labels pictured may be more eroded by the time they reach the customer. All attempts to prevent this will be made. If customers prefer I prioritize cleanliness over label preservation, or vice versa, I am happy to oblige as able. Details of testing procedures, test result analysis, and testing category standards There are three major types of tubes I am selling and can fully test – diodes, triodes, and pentodes/beam tetrodes. Other types either will be tested as one of these types (pentagrid tubes tested as pentodes), or have a method of testing that is self-explanatory, non-numeric, and/or fairly uniform across all testers (magic eye tubes tested for strength of neon glow, and width of aperture opening at two different voltages). Some tubes contain multiple sections, which will be tested individually, and individual categories given for each section if they test differently. Diodes have two electrodes (electrical elements), triodes have three, and pentodes/beam tetrodes have five. There is an additional element in nearly all tubes called the filament, and its purpose is simply to get hot to cause the cathode to emit electrons. In some tubes (primarily old ones from the 1910’s and 20’s) the filament and the cathode are the same thing, but usually they are separate. As the filament serves no purpose beyond this, it is not included in electrode counts and testing procedures. The only relevant testing parameter for the filament is how much current it draws, and this is a pass/fail condition. All tubes being sold will only have very minor, if any, filament current deviations from the nominal value. Tubes that test within a certain percentage of their rated nominal values, usually 20%, are considered ‘NOS’, which means New Old Stock, indicating that the tube will essentially function as if it were brand new, and is regarded and priced as such. All critical measurements must be within the appropriate tolerance range, or I will not consider them NOS. NOS testing tubes may have been used in the past, it is impossible to determine with certainty, but can be relied upon to provide the performance and longevity of a brand new tube. These are the testing categories a tube may be listed in, and the percentage deviations from nominal values that typically award it placement in that category: Low – 65%-69% Good – 70%-79% NOS – 80%-120% Perfect – 90%-110% Strong – 121%-135% Tubes with critical values measured at less than 65% or greater than 135% are typically unusable and not listed. Exceptions are detailed below. A small amount of flexibility (5% or less) on a single less critical value may be allowed for when placing a tube into a testing category. For example, a triode that is well within a 20% tolerance on μ, rp and gm, but where plate current is low or high out to a 25% tolerance, may still be categorized as NOS even though the plate current is not technically within that range. This is because μ and rp are by far the most crucial values for a triode, and if those values are close to nominal, a tube with 75% or 125% of nominal plate current will still perform as new. This is not the case for tubes that show signs of aging, however. The electrodes involved in these tubes and their basic functions are as follows: Cathode – emits electrons when heated by the filament, to be collected by the plate, and regulated by the grids. Plate (anode) – receives positive DC voltage to attract and collect electrons emitted by the cathode, usually high voltage. Control Grid (grid, grid 1) – between cathode and plate, receives various static or fluctuating voltages to control the flow of electrons through the tube. Screen Grid (grid 2) – between control grid and plate in pentodes/beam tetrodes. In an amplifier, it receives positive DC voltage to accelerate electrons towards the plate, collecting a small amount of them itself. Usage varies widely across applications. Suppressor Grid (grid 3) – between Screen Grid and plate in pentodes/beam tetrodes. Usually grounded at 0V to reflect electrons that bounce off the plate, back at the plate. Sometimes connected to the cathode internally. The tube types and testing methods, as well as an analysis of results, and categorizations of different results, are as follows: Diodes – these are extremely simple. A positive voltage is applied to the plate, and the resulting plate current is the only relevant measurement to make. As diodes are usually meant to have AC applied to the plate and not DC, and the Etracer provides DC, which draws much higher current, they are only tested in a fairly low voltage range, but this is sufficient to extrapolate high voltage performance. As an added measure, graphical representation of plate DC voltage vs. plate current is provided up to the current limits of the tube, and gives an even better estimation of performance at close to the tube’s maximum rated values. The graph should show a smooth curve all the way to the current maximum, with an even slope. Triodes – these have a cathode and a plate like diodes, but with a control grid superimposed in between to regulate the current flow. Various positive voltages are applied to the plate, usually up to several hundred volts, while various smaller negative ‘bias’ voltages are applied to the control grid to reduce the current to specific amounts. Various measurements are taken, listed here from what is typically most important to least: μ (pronounced ‘mu’, also called amplification factor) Rp (plate resistance) plate current Gm (transconductance) (not very important factor for triodes, may be usable as low as 50% or high as 150%) Triodes are matched by a combination of μ, rp, and plate current. In addition, the graphs of the plate voltage vs. plate current must show matching curves within 5% across the entire operating range. I will not call a tube matched unless all 3 of these parameters are matched within 5%, and the curves are as described. The only exception is that I will allow a match of perhaps 7% or 8% on plate current, if the μ and rp are matched well under 5%, and the curves are identical in shape and difference across their entire range. ‘Balanced’ triodes are single tubes with multiple triodes in the same glass envelope, where the triodes are matched. The same standards apply. Multiple tubes may be balanced and matched, meaning all sections of all tubes are matched, or matched and unbalanced, meaning the different tubes’ multiple sections are unbalanced identically. Triodes show age and use by demonstrating very high plate resistance, along with somewhat high μ, low plate current and transconductance. Tubes that display these characteristics, even if they meet the tolerances to be rated as NOS, will be listed as ‘used’ as this is likely the case. Conversely, tubes with low plate resistance, high plate current and transconductance, and nominal μ, with all values within the NOS range, can be relied upon for extra long life. Pentodes/beam tetrodes – these two tube types only differ in the physical construction of the suppressor grid; their electrical function is identical. The function as an amplifier is similar to the triode, but with the addition of a Screen Grid to accelerate electrons towards the plate, and a Suppressor Grid to reflect electrons that bounce off the plate, back at the plate. Various measurements are taken, listed here from most to least important: Gm (transconductance) plate current Rp (inaccurate for most pentodes, measurements from 50%-150% can be accepted as NOS, and lower or higher measurements than that can be accepted) Screen current (importance depends greatly on application, values as low as 65% can be accepted as NOS, and low as 50% are generally acceptable) Pentodes and beam tetrodes are matched for transconductance and plate current, with the same 5% tolerance and graphical matching standards as triodes applying. Aging is determined similarly, though plate resistance is less of a reliable factor.
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